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Hardware - USB Speakers on Laptop

SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 05:01 Uhr
Titel: USB Speakers on Laptop
I have laptop speakers but I don't want to use those; I want to use the speakers connected to my USB port. How can I make my Kanotix use that and not the laptop speakers?
Kano - 25.10.2006, 09:57 Uhr
Titel: RE: USB Speakers on Laptop
Most easy way would be to blacklist die "normal" module or you disable onboard sound in BIOS.
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 13:51 Uhr
Titel: RE: USB Speakers on Laptop
Can you teach me how to do that please
hubi - 25.10.2006, 16:24 Uhr
Titel: RE: USB Speakers on Laptop
I have never blacklisted the onboard sound (but that's a great idea) but use Philips external USB speakers when I visit my parents. I just plug it in and set alsa to hw:1,0 (either in kcontrol or in the apps). Most of the time they are recognized at such.

Blacklisting:
as root edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add
Zitat:
blacklist snd-whatever


Easy way as root in the shell:
Code:
echo blacklist snd-whatever >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

snd-whatever has to be replaced by the name of your sound-module. You can list your modules with
Code:
lsmod | grep snd
If you do not know what the output means, post it here.

hubi
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 16:50 Uhr
Titel:
The sound doesn't work at all now. The USB powered speakers are green lighted which means they are on and operating. Maybe Kanotix is not detecting them? I am using Enlightenment DR16 by the way
hubi - 25.10.2006, 17:26 Uhr
Titel:
First two things I would check:

1. alsa hardware setting (xmms does it nicely, gives you the hardware address in alsa-plugin configuration)
2. alsamixer setting. Maybe you have to mute or unmute sth.

You can also check
Code:
lsusb
if your speakers are recognized at all by the USB-system.

hubi
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 17:27 Uhr
Titel:
How do I undo a blacklist?

I got the sound back working but it still doesn't come out of the speakers

Yes it does detect my USB speakers

How do I get to blacklist? I get error

root@Debian:/home/sentralorigin # /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied


Also how do I log out of root from console




I got a list of these and blacklisted every single one with echo blacklist snd-blahblah-blah >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist


snd_usb_audio 69984 1
snd_intel8x0m 14732 6
snd_intel8x0 28956 3
snd_ac97_codec 86304 2 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus 3072 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_usb_lib 14720 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_pcm_oss 39456 0
snd_mixer_oss 14720 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_rawmidi 20000 1 snd_usb_lib
snd_seq_device 7308 1 snd_rawmidi
snd_hwdep 7812 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_pcm 66052 7 snd_usb_audio,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 19588 1 snd_pcm
snd 42852 29 snd_usb_audio,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 8288 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 8456 3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
usbcore 107908 6 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
Kano - 25.10.2006, 17:57 Uhr
Titel:
Thats not needed. Only blacklist snd_intel8x0.
mzilikazi - 25.10.2006, 18:29 Uhr
Titel:
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::


How do I get to blacklist? I get error

root@Debian:/home/sentralorigin # /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied


You need to use an editor to edit the file. Not sure what editor you have available so I'll use xedit as an example:
Code:
$ su
# xedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist


I like an small editor called leafpad but you can use any editor you like.
Code:
# apt-get install leafpad


Zitat:

Also how do I log out of root from console


CTRL+D
OR
Code:
exit


Smilie
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 19:32 Uhr
Titel:
Oops

How do I log into root from the login screen? I can only see my name 'SentralOrigin' and no option to log in as root as when I had 2005-4
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 19:35 Uhr
Titel:
mzilikazi hat folgendes geschrieben::
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::


How do I get to blacklist? I get error

root@Debian:/home/sentralorigin # /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied


You need to use an editor to edit the file. Not sure what editor you have available so I'll use xedit as an example:
Code:
$ su
# xedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist


I like an small editor called leafpad but you can use any editor you like.
Code:
# apt-get install leafpad



I tried to edit and then save but I get this error:

The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.
Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.

I think it's because I'm not logged in as root. How can I log in to root? I don't have the option to because I only have one option to log in as "SentralOrigin"
hubi - 25.10.2006, 19:42 Uhr
Titel:
Do blacklisting like that:
Code:
echo blacklist snd_intel8x0 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
After that it is blacklisted, you wrote a line into a textfile.



To undo the blacklisting, open the file through the console as root like that (there are two ways, chose one of them:
Code:
# mcedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
# vim /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist


If you are more familiar with gui-editors (I suppose so) become root the following way:
Code:
sux
[password]
kedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist


Then you can either delete the line or you just comment that line with # plus SPACE. So it might look like that:
Zitat:
# blacklist snd_intel8x0


Btw, you cannot start the file blacklist in a shell just by typing it's path, it is a text-file.

hubi
mzilikazi - 25.10.2006, 19:58 Uhr
Titel:
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::
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I think it's because I'm not logged in as root. How can I log in to root? I don't have the option to because I only have one option to log in as "SentralOrigin"


Well logging into Xwindows as root is not a good idea nor is it necessary. Just use a terminal, get root and edit your file from there.
Code:
$ su
# xedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist


Note the $ indicates you are USER
the # indicates that you are ROOT
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 20:01 Uhr
Titel:
Thank you sir that fixed all my problems EXCEPT the sound problem :p

The music still plays through my laptop speakers instead of my USB speakers.

Do I have to reboot or something?
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 20:42 Uhr
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Okay I can't block the mainboard sound from BIOS, but I got the blacklisting correctly so the sound doesn't come out anymore.

But now the sound won't come out at all. How can I make it recognize my USB speakers now?
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 20:52 Uhr
Titel:
It seems as if my box recognizes the USB as speakers and it knows that it can play audio through it, but it just doesn't want to because it thinks it can't play audio? or something LOL

Any suggestions on how to make it play through my USB? I'm running on Enlightenment DR16, by the way. When I try to play music through XMMS it says sound is not detected but when I check the settings it knows that the USB speakers are there and I can change the volume on the thing and in the XMMS (but it does it both at the same time) so I dunno
Please help
Thank you very much for all the help so far
hubi - 25.10.2006, 20:58 Uhr
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Here is Kanotix, not Delphix Mr. Green

Sometimes a reboot is the quickest way. My cheapo external USB soundcard here needs a reboot and is recognised then by the default settings. xmms does not love it, kde-progs love it.

My USB-speakers at my parent's place are more sophisticated, they can be set to work how I want. And that's the easiest way:
Do you have xmms installed. If yes, open it and look at the list of devices for the alsa-plugin. That's quite handy.

Look at this pic:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6852/xmmsjd9.png

It's the alsa-output-plugin configuration in the xmms options, and there you can see hw:0,0. That is the address for alsa you need to set. In this case, it is my cheapo external soundcard, it runs through default pcm, which yours obviously does not, your default is the internal speakers.

By having got that address, you just adjust all your outputs to alsa with that address. How to teach E DR16 that it uses alsa only, I do not have the slightest idea, I do not know that DE. So try it with xmms first or with any other multimedia software.

You can also try to reload alsa as root in the shell (don't type the #, it inidcates you should be root):
Code:
# /etc/init.d/alsa reload


So you can do:
1. check xmms for address
2. reboot
3. reload alsa

If then there is still no sound, I am out of ideas Mr. Green

Greetings
hubi
hubi - 25.10.2006, 21:07 Uhr
Titel:
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::
When I try to play music through XMMS it says sound is not detected but when I check the settings it knows that the USB speakers are there and I can change the volume on the thing and in the XMMS (but it does it both at the same time) so I dunno


Alright, some cheapo USB as well obviously (cheap does not mean automatically the price you pay :-/).

Ok, same problem here, I was never able to convince xmms to play sth. All KDE-stuff works perfectly.

But you have the address. Try other players with that hardware-adress (hw:x,x).

It's obviously a hardware thing, my Philips-Speakers are plug and play. With every application and with every player, and they can play sound simultaniously from various sources. With my cheapo here I can't do those funny things.

hubi
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 21:15 Uhr
Titel:
Damnit it still doesn't play

In the Alsa config, should I box off the "Use software volume control"? I don't know what that does. It still won't play any sound, even when I removed the blacklist from the mainboard lol. But I set it to play as the hw 0,0 USB device. Damnit
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 21:17 Uhr
Titel:
I tried using Amarok but my error message is:

xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 21:20 Uhr
Titel:
I just unplugged my USB speakers and I plugged them back in and now they won't even turn on

Do I need to mount the USB drive maybe?

I just tried playing music in Kaffeine or whatever and I got the error:

xine
failed to initialize all audio drivers

Or something along the lines of that
hubi - 25.10.2006, 21:35 Uhr
Titel:
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::
But I set it to play as the hw 0,0 USB device.
The address should be hw:0,0

Or was it a typo?
hubi - 25.10.2006, 21:37 Uhr
Titel:
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::
I tried using Amarok but my error message is:

xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
Ah! I know that one.

Keep xine, set device to automatic. If that works, reset it to alsa. And if that works, keep it.

hubi
hubi - 25.10.2006, 21:40 Uhr
Titel:
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::
I just unplugged my USB speakers and I plugged them back in and now they won't even turn on
None of my speakers/soundcards which are USB love being unplugged. I usually reboot then, just because I don't know how to get the modules back. Quite dumb those things. Mounting does not help, they are no filesystems.

hubi
mzilikazi - 25.10.2006, 23:22 Uhr
Titel:
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::
I just unplugged my USB speakers and I plugged them back in and now they won't even turn on

Do I need to mount the USB drive maybe?

I just tried playing music in Kaffeine or whatever and I got the error:

xine
failed to initialize all audio drivers

Or something along the lines of that


What make/model/brand of USB speakers? I've never owned any USB speakers myself but Google might know something about them.
SentralOrigin - 25.10.2006, 23:48 Uhr
Titel:
mzilikazi hat folgendes geschrieben::

What make/model/brand of USB speakers? I've never owned any USB speakers myself but Google might know something about them.


It's these by Forgrand or something

http://www.acesuppliers.com/company/inf ... ?pid=31575

hubi hat folgendes geschrieben::
SentralOrigin hat folgendes geschrieben::
I tried using Amarok but my error message is:

xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
Ah! I know that one.

Keep xine, set device to automatic. If that works, reset it to alsa. And if that works, keep it.

hubi

It's already at Auto. It still doesn't work. I can't put it to Alsa because it says:

Can't init new Audio Driver alsa - using auto!
SentralOrigin - 26.10.2006, 01:44 Uhr
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If anyone can solve this problem for me, I will ask you to send me your PayPal address and I will PayPal you $5.00 USD
SentralOrigin - 26.10.2006, 18:31 Uhr
Titel:
Where can I download USB drivers for ALSA?
How do I switch soundcards but change the output from the mainboard?
SentralOrigin - 26.10.2006, 20:27 Uhr
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I downloaded the alsa-driver but I don't understand these instructions.

How do I run 'make'? There is no such file and I did view > hidden files and also console says it's not a valid command
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 01:16 Uhr
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I finally figured out how to install the ALSA driver.

But now when I play media, I get a huge error notices of random numbers and letters in my ATerm, and then it can't play anything and I get the usual pop-up error as before.
tinker - 27.10.2006, 17:07 Uhr
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I'm not sure if I followed all of the previous posts correctly as I read through this thread, it seemed pretty convoluted to me.

However, it looks like a couple of days ago you blacklisted your sound card, thus causing that module to not load and as far as I can tell those usb speakers are just speakers not sound devices. Does your dmesg show any sound devices loaded? Maybe it would be a good idea to go back to square one and let the module load, get your sound working through the laptop speakers again and then continue with working on the usb speakers. I note that I have never used USB speakers, so my advice may not be the best.
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 17:28 Uhr
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Ok thanks I will try unblacklisting it and start over I guess
Okay I got it un blacklisted

Now let's try this again all over again.

Lol, I forgot where to begin or start
hubi - 27.10.2006, 18:04 Uhr
Titel:
tinker,

I have USB-speakers from Philips, they behave like sounddvices and get their own hardware address. They work flawlessly.

My other USB sounddevice is a USB external soundcard by Trust which I use here to connect a small Sony to my Stereo. It is recognized as a sounddevice as well but has all the little problems SentralOrigin is writing about.

With the later device there seems to be a fight who is first at boottime: intel8x0 or the external USB soundcard by Trust. So Kano's advice seems to be very logical, and I blacklisted the intel8x0 on my Sony as well. Result: no fights anymore, I always get the external card on boot.

Further: the external Trust soundcard is not detected by alsaconf, and I cannot directly address it. An address like hw:1,0 does not help, I just get the same error like the OP: Xine does not blablabla. The kernel has to grasp it, at least it looks like that.

All my knowledge I have already given, so if it does not work having all other sounddevices blacklisted, I do not have a clue.

hubi
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 18:13 Uhr
Titel:
hubi hat folgendes geschrieben::
tinker,

I have USB-speakers from Philips, they behave like sounddvices and get their own hardware address. They work flawlessly.

My other USB sounddevice is a USB external soundcard by Trust which I use here to connect a small Sony to my Stereo. It is recognized as a sounddevice as well but has all the little problems SentralOrigin is writing about.

With the later device there seems to be a fight who is first at boottime: intel8x0 or the external USB soundcard by Trust. So Kano's advice seems to be very logical, and I blacklisted the intel8x0 on my Sony as well. Result: no fights anymore, I always get the external card on boot.

Further: the external Trust soundcard is not detected by alsaconf, and I cannot directly address it. An address like hw:1,0 does not help, I just get the same error like the OP: Xine does not blablabla. The kernel has to grasp it, at least it looks like that.

All my knowledge I have already given, so if it does not work having all other sounddevices blacklisted, I do not have a clue.

hubi


After countless trying different combinations of settings and rebooting over and over again, I have become more familiar with the error, so I know the problem quite well, but I don't have a clue as how to answer it.

If I don't blacklist my mainboard sound, and I boot up, it ALWAYS detects my USB sound device first, but it does not detect my mainboard sound. However, if I unplug my USB Speakers and boot up, it does detect my mainboard sound and it can play audio like that. But when I boot my system with the USB speakers, it detects it, but it cannot play audio with it for some reason. Nothing is blacklisted by the way. I can't figure out why it can play audio with my mainboard speakers easily but it doesn't know or can't play with my audio speakers. Maybe my mainboard speakers, even though they are not functioning at this point, are in play invisibly somehow and interfering with playing with my USB? Even when they were blacklisted I still have the problem of not being able to play with my USB speakers. So I don't think there's really an argument of which one boots up first, because if my USB speakers are plugged in, it always uses that as a primary speakers, it just can't play with it. I get that xine error as well if I try using my USB speakers.

So I guess I have not yet tried letting the "kernel grasp it". How can I do that? Baby step by step please Smilie
hubi - 27.10.2006, 18:39 Uhr
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Kernel grasping the card means: he just does it. I cannot interfere in this process which soundcard is grabbed first. Sometimes it was the internal soundcard, and I do not want that. But that's not your problem. Your problem is, you do not have a sound even if the USB speakers are the sound devices which are used - if I understand correctly.

With my Trust card I have the same problem as you have: no way to get anything from xmms. But amarok, noatun, kaffeine and all the others are working just fine.

I also thought arts, the KDE-sounddemon is the key to success, but no: mine is switched off by default.

Another thought: is there anything which blocks your soundcard? I cannot get my Trust card to work with more than one input simultanously. So: if there is a process which uses the soundcard, that might be a key to success as well. But ... what to look for?

Maybe you run
Code:
htop
at your shell to see which processes are running.

hubi
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 18:44 Uhr
Titel:
I don't think anything else is using my soundcard at startup
But maybe the mainboard sound is still running in the back even if I start up the USB speakers from the beginning but the mainboard sound is always blocking it even if I'm not using it or the mainboard sound is not in the options even? Maybe it's still there somehow even blacklisted
hubi - 27.10.2006, 18:50 Uhr
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Mainboard sound means intel8x0, I suppose. It should be an either or, so no interference. It is quite a hack to configure a Linux box to use two soundcards simoultanously with ususal software like alsa or former oss. So that should not be the reason, because the kernel uses the modules, and they usually do not interfere.

But! Alas!

I remember a mute Fedora installation. There was a modem sounddriver: snd-intel8x0m. That one had to be blacklisted otherwise no sound at all and no chance to get a sound.

I check your lsmod again and have a look.

hubi
hubi - 27.10.2006, 18:56 Uhr
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But no, I'm writing from the Sony now, with the working Trust card (listening to internet radio right now). My lsmod looks like yours (just the intel8x0 is blacklisted, but it worked with it as well), and the modem-sounddriver is in:
Zitat:
snd_intel8x0m 13836 6
snd_ac97_codec 85280 1 snd_intel8x0m
snd_ac97_bus 2176 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_usb_audio 68832 2
snd_pcm_oss 38432 0
snd_mixer_oss 13824 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 66312 7 snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 19204 1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 7560 2 snd_intel8x0m,snd_pcm
snd_usb_lib 13568 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 19488 1 snd_usb_lib
snd_seq_device 6412 1 snd_rawmidi
snd_hwdep 6788 1 snd_usb_audio
snd 41828 23 snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep
soundcore 7392 1 snd
usbcore 107012 7 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,hci_usb,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd

hubi
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 19:57 Uhr
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I will try to blacklist snd-intel8x0m since it really doesn't do anything, right?
hubi - 27.10.2006, 20:03 Uhr
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If you do not have a modem running (e.g. for faxing) you do not need it. But I'm afraid, it's not Fedora-time anymore, when this was the simple trick.
hubi
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 20:12 Uhr
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Gah that didn't work either, lol.

I can see options in my ALSA config in XMMS now, for either the mainboard or USB Speakers. I can play perfectly with the mainboard if I select it, but if I select USB speakers I get the same error message. Grrr why is this?











This is the error message I always get with USB speakers but the mainboard sound plays fine.




hubi - 27.10.2006, 20:21 Uhr
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Ok, we are getting closer. Your mainboard sound is running, so the intel8x0 module is loaded when you boot. That should not be.

So let's try that the kernel is picking your USB speakers, obviously you really need to blacklist snd_intel8x0. And blacklist also snd-intel8x0 (I really don't know which notation blacklisting prefers, so both is the safe way).

Then reboot, the kernel should boot then the modules of the usb-speakers (snd_usb_audio) as primary sound device.

After rebooting try any player but not xmms (might not work like mine). Set audio output with alsa either to automatic or to the hardware address xmms gives you. The best would be, if it is named "USB-sth".

Gosh! It should work with one of your players then.

It's really a tough piece of hardware Mr. Green

hubi
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 20:28 Uhr
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Gosh I really wish I could use XMMS Traurig I really like it and I'm so comfortable with it for many years. GAhhhh
hubi - 27.10.2006, 20:29 Uhr
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Thx for the screenshots.

On my sony I only have two devices:
- Default PCM device
- USB Audio device

Use the "Default PCM device". That makes my xmms running with the Trust device. waaahoooo!!!!

God, I never thought of that one! *headbanging*

hubi
hubi - 27.10.2006, 20:31 Uhr
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Addition: I think you have to blacklist all the intel stuff to make "Default PCM device" working. It never worked here before, I'm sure, just after yesterday's blacklisting (tried Kano's advice).
hubi
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 20:37 Uhr
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I just rebooted and I still get the same error message. I can only see the USB device now, but not the mainboard option because I blacklisted it. In the other media player like Kaffeine it says it could not load ALSA or something now. So I can't play any music at this point.

How do I blacklist all my Intel? I think most of my laptop products are Intel like the graphics and chipset and modem and LAN, etc.
hubi - 27.10.2006, 20:47 Uhr
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Tough, tough, tough.

What does
Code:
lsusb
say?

Here on my Sony it says
Zitat:
$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 145f:0090
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 044e:3007 Alps Electric Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
That gives vendor and type of your USB device. Some forensic seems to be needed.

hubi
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 20:47 Uhr
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I was able to record the error message in Aterm when I first try to play a song in XMMS. After this error message, I get the usual pop-up one from the screenshot before this one




SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 20:50 Uhr
Titel:
hubi hat folgendes geschrieben::
Tough, tough, tough.

What does
Code:
lsusb
say?

Here on my Sony it says
Zitat:
$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 145f:0090
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 044e:3007 Alps Electric Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
That gives vendor and type of your USB device. Some forensic seems to be needed.

hubi


Zitat:
SentralOrigin@Kanotix:~$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0e6a:0310 Megawin Technology Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c01b Logitech, Inc. MX310 Optical Mouse
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000


The Megawin is my speakers and the Logitech is my mouse (obviously)
hubi - 27.10.2006, 21:11 Uhr
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Did some looking around with google, and it is a really tough piece of hardware. Just found some people being not able to run it on SuSE, but they did not get any advice at all, and I found a patch for it for alsa on the alsa-devel site:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/foru ... um_id=1752

But applying this patch goes beyond my knowledge, it is about frequencies (some USB devices need 48000 Hz - but: they work with 44100 as well - imho), and the patch older (7 months).

We might be out of luck and seem to enter hacking territory, and this is not my territory being a simple enduser.

Looks to be awkward Traurig

hubi
SentralOrigin - 27.10.2006, 21:15 Uhr
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Thanks for all the help so far hubi - You're only human I know and knowledge can only go to a certain extent for people. You've brought me this far, even if it didn't solve my problems. This "frequency" thing seems to enter the physics boundaries and whatnot, and seems REALLY complicated...I've asked around on different Linux forums, but all they did was flame me for being a noob. I haven't even said anything wrong, just repeated nicely basically everything I noted here in this thread. At least you were kind of enough to try and help at least. I guess from here on out I'll have to find someone that specializes in this new "frequency" thing...ahhh, Linux really is a technological journey. Good adventure and experience ^^
hubi - 27.10.2006, 21:39 Uhr
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Well, it seems to be that the alsa people just did not get the specs for your device and therefore just cannot program the driver. Unfortunatelly sometimes a sad story about the relationship between hardware vendors and Linux developers.

And it always makes me sad, when people get flamed just for asking questions. There was one SuSE thread I just read where one guy was asking about exactly your device, and he more or less got insulted for being stupid. I really do not understand these people.

My experience in Linux world is, the more technically challenging a distribution the nicer the people. I started off with Fedora about three years ago and was completely new (I even had problems to find out what to do with the file tree), and the people on the fedora mailing-list never ever flamed me, they got me through all my problems.

Same here at Kanotix, in this very small "family". Very high profiled programmers are writing here as well as endusers (experienced and newbies), but nobody ever gets flamed.

I really have no more ideas about your speakers, but I hope you still will have a look at Linux or Kanotix or continue to use it. Just forget the flamers, they usually know nothing but cannot admit it. Strange people actually.

All the best and greetings
hubi
hubi - 27.10.2006, 21:59 Uhr
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Just saw your kernel-message screenshot. Not that I would understand it, but: are you using a Debian or a Kanotix kernel? No idea if it would make a difference.
Code:
uname -r

Just out of interest. Never thought of a kernel issue.

hubi
SentralOrigin - 30.10.2006, 21:40 Uhr
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2.6.18-kanotix-1
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