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hubi - 13.07.2006, 00:32 Uhr
Titel: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp

So I leave that one.

hubi

mzilikazi - 13.07.2006, 02:48 Uhr
Titel: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp

hubi hat folgendes geschrieben::

So I leave that one.

hubi

Good answer! Winken

Glad to see that people are actually reading what apt is telling them instead of just pressing 'Y'

Now some people will disagree with me on this point but this is exactly why I do not use apt-get dist-upgrade. I always do apt-get upgrade, then if I feel the need for the latest packages (and they want to remove something I wish to keep) I'll try to figure out what to do but it's not usually so critical. Often times all required packages simply have not been uploaded to their respective repo's and all you need to do is wait and the situation will resolve itself.

DeepDayze - 13.07.2006, 03:36 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp

Yeah, noticed that too..Gimp's too good to be kicked out

Crust - 13.07.2006, 17:28 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp

The best thing to do is to wait, but if you have accidentally dist-upgraded or if you want to install a newer gimp and do the d-u, do the following:

apt-get install libpoppler0c2-glib

Download the following files:
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/ma ... -1_all.deb
http://incoming.debian.org/libgimp2.0_2.3.10-1_i386.deb
http://incoming.debian.org/gimp_2.3.10-1_i386.deb

Install the packages by:
dpkg -i file-name

-Crust

DeepDayze - 14.07.2006, 00:12 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp

Crust:

http://incoming.debian.org/libgimp2.0_2.3.10-1_i386.deb
http://incoming.debian.org/gimp_2.3.10-1_i386.deb

check your links as these files are not in there

zulu9 - 14.07.2006, 00:46 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp

this also seems to work:
apt-get install gimp/experimental gimp-data/experimental libgimp2.0/experimental

hubi - 14.07.2006, 01:01 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp

aptitude is dealing with it fine as well. Just tried it on one machine. It holds back the new gimp-data and keeps the old gimp.

hubi

Crust - 14.07.2006, 01:14 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp

DeepDayze The packages have already entered experimental. Before today's upgrade of the repositories, the experimental packages were even outdated. This is why I listed the incoming packages. You can use the command EES555 listed if you want.

-Crust

drb - 14.07.2006, 09:35 Uhr
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hubi,

I've just tried a d-u and it still wants to remove gimp. Have you put gimp-data on 'hold'?

I currently have 3 package that are held back (not by me) : gkrellm, python-qt3 and checkinstall - do others have the same held packages?

drb

hubi - 14.07.2006, 09:55 Uhr
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drb,

I have done the dist-upgrade with aptitude and not apt-get. Aptitude holds the new gimp-data back, so no changes to gimp at all, and I did not have to set the *gimp*-packages on hold.

If you do not have aptitude:
#apt-get install aptitude

aptitude has more or less the same syntax as apt-get and uses the sources.list and preferences of /etc/apt/*

Then I did:
# aptitude update
# aptitude dist-upgrade

It asks you some questions, but the solutions are the right ones in this gimp-situation. The system is upgraded and gimp stays.

Greetings
hubi

drb - 14.07.2006, 11:15 Uhr
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Thanks hubi,

From a position of ignorance, why aptitude instead of apt-get? Are there any benefits (other than gimp not being removed!)?

drb

hubi - 14.07.2006, 11:49 Uhr
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drb,

technically I do not know the difference, just tried it out and it handled gimp differently, so it spared me holding the packages. Usually I use apt-get, but I'll stick with aptitude until the new gimp is in.

hubi

Superrakete - 14.07.2006, 11:52 Uhr
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Hi!

Aptitude is said to deal with dependencies better than apt-get. And it keeps a log of its actions in /var/log/aptitude. Apt-get doesn't.

Just try it. Maybe use "aptitude dist-upgrade -d" first, downloads all needed packages but does not install them.

Gandi - 14.07.2006, 16:14 Uhr
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Hi EES555

your instruction worked fine - thank you. Now Gimp is back and better than ever!

markb - 15.07.2006, 07:28 Uhr
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Superrakete hat folgendes geschrieben::

Aptitude is said to deal with dependencies better than apt-get. And it keeps a log of its actions in /var/log/aptitude. Apt-get doesn't

Aptitude remembers dependent packages which are "auto" installed when you install a package and will auto uninstall them if you remove that package (well, only those dependent packages that are not in-use anymore). So you end up with less crud on your system particularly if you have a tendency to trial and then purge packages often. I don't know of any other package manager that does this?

I've always used aptitude with kanotix instead of apt-get. The user interface is a bit obscure but, once you get used to it, it works well.

vilde - 15.07.2006, 12:04 Uhr
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I treid the command EES555 suggested but I get the Release 'experimental' for 'gimp' was not found back. How do I do to get Gimp back?

SaberBlaze - 15.07.2006, 12:08 Uhr
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You need to uncomment these two lines in your sources.list:

Code:

# deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free  

# deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free

If you use synaptic, you check both of the boxes for those repos.

Remember to to comment both lines again after you install gimp.

vilde - 15.07.2006, 17:13 Uhr
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So I uncomented
# deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free

In my /etc/apt/sources.list

apg-get udate

apt-get install gimp/experimental gimp-data/experimental libgimp2.0/experimental

I comentet the two lines in sources.list again

And now I have Gimp back again, Thanks

Auf den Arm nehmen

LessWire - 16.07.2006, 02:42 Uhr
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just do a dist-upgrade again, now the latest gimp version is in the repository and all works fine!

greets, L.W.

Mike Shepard - 16.07.2006, 09:39 Uhr
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It does seem that the updated gimp is now in the repository. Those who tried to fix the problem by using the experimental version installed a different version of gimp. The gimp in the experimental repo is the 2.3.10 development snapshot, rather than the released 2.2.12-1 that is in the sid repo. Just thought I would point that out.

Cheers,
-Mike

h2 - 16.07.2006, 19:18 Uhr
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yes, it's in there now, it's safe again. I'm installing the lastest version now.