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					| Titel: Dual core 64bit CPU & 32Bit kernel  Verfasst am: 20.07.2006, 16:41 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | I'm thnking about upgrading to a dual core 64Bit CPU and appropriate motherboard.
 
 I intend to continue running 32bit Kanotix for the moment.
 
 I'm naive about these things but would it be possible to install
 the Easter single core Kanotix on the upgraded machine and
 upgrade to a smp kernel at a later date?
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					| Titel: RE: Dual core 64bit CPU & 32Bit kernel  Verfasst am: 20.07.2006, 19:38 Uhr |  | 
  
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					| Titel: RE: Dual core 64bit CPU & 32Bit kernel  Verfasst am: 20.07.2006, 20:05 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | clubex, sure you can, easter preview brings a smp kernel along, but you can upgrade to a more current smp kernel at any time.
 
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 Host/Kernel/OS  "devilsbox" running[2.6.19-rc1-git5-kanotix-1KANOTIX-2006-01-RC4 ]
 CPU Info        AMD Athlon 64 3000+ clocked at [ 803.744 MHz ]
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 20.07.2006, 20:21 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Many thanks guys. That solved my main problem
 
 Now to the hardest part. Spending the cash!
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 20.07.2006, 20:54 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | clubex: wait a little while, amd has cut prices, but the new prices are not in the market yet. 
 You will be able to get an amd x2 3800 for under US $200 quite soon, almost half the current price. That's for socket 939, similar price cuts I believe for socket am2
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 20.07.2006, 21:07 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | h2, yes, and they should be out by next monday.
 
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 CPU Info        AMD Athlon 64 3000+ clocked at [ 803.744 MHz ]
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 20.07.2006, 23:21 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Thanks again guys. 
 I'm in the UK so "next Monday" probably translates to "sometime
 just before Xmas" and still be expensive. So I may not wait.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 22.07.2006, 09:29 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | In germany the new am2 are out since july 17th boards and cpu's. In U.K. should be the same. But with all new technology I'ld wait til X-mas to buy this.
 
 If you need a new board right now!, go out for a 939-board and cpu.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 22.07.2006, 11:56 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | I'd more or less decided before my first post to go for an AMD 3800+ dual core and 939 board.
 
 Another problem may be my PSU. Is my 300W PSU
 man enough for the above combination plus 1GB RAM,
 and GeForce2 MX/MX 400?
 
 If not can anyone recommend a cheap (finance is short)
 but good value PSU?
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 22.07.2006, 12:31 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | not realy. Depends on  combined-power-outpup 3.3V + 5V >160W. A good PSU Enermax, BeQuiet, Tagan....
 but no! noname. not stable enough.
 
 Let me know the tech.-data of your old-PSU and age. you find the info at one side of the PSU.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 22.07.2006, 12:41 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Also check the ATX connector of your PSU. Newer socket 939 boards require 24 pins, not 20 as with the old boards. 
 I also recommend Be quiet, Enermax and Tagan. They sell at a premium, though.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 22.07.2006, 13:10 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Thanks again guys. 
 I'll check out the PSU info during the next downtime.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 22.07.2006, 13:43 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | AMD processor price appears to have fallen by almost 50% in the UK. 
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 22.07.2006, 19:16 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | clubex: think about buying a complete case, you can get an antec sonata II for about $100 US, and it comes with I think a very good 400 watt powersupply. And the case is very quiet, whisper quiet if you get a quiet cpu fan, with copper heatsink. Buying that powersupply alone would costs almost the same. |  
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 23.07.2006, 11:10 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Thanks guys. 
 schnorrer: 3.3V + 5V >150W on my present PSU. So I need
 a new PSU.
 
 H2: Over here (UK) an Antec Sonata II costs £70-£90 whereas
 I can get the SmartPower 2.0 450W PSU for £45. Money is short
 so I'll probably go for the PSU.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 23.07.2006, 13:10 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | @clubex: your PSU got 3.3V + 5V > 150W No new PSU is needed or is the Combined less than 160W? |  
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 23.07.2006, 14:54 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | schnorrer: Apologies for my typo. 
 Ratings on the side of my present PSU
 +3.3v 20A   plus +5v 30A   150W
 +12v 16A                          144W
 -5V 0.5A                            2.5W
 -12V 0.8A                           6W
 
 It also has 20pin sockets and no CPU socket.
 So a new PSU is definitely required.
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 23.07.2006, 17:06 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | First check th new MB than decide if needed. |  
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