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Titel: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
 Verfasst am: 18.05.2006, 08:12 Uhr
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hi people,
trying to get some facts on the strange aRts problem, that some of us have. its not kanotix-related, google has lots on it, but nothing really works so far.
please give us some facts of your machine, (in the same order)
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1.) your kanotix version(s)
2.) mainboard
3.) all souncards (if not deactivated in bios)
4.) all soundchips (alsaconf shows them)
5.) your alsa version (apt-cache policy alsa-utils)
6.) your arts version (apt-cache policy arts)
7.) when and how does the problem occur?
thxx
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CPU Info AMD Athlon 64 3000+ clocked at [ 803.744 MHz ]
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Titel: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 18.05.2006, 08:16 Uhr
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for a start:
if you can boot into init 3 (hit 3 and then enter, as soon as grub screen shows),
please log on as root and try this:
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/etc/init.d/alsa force-unload
then:
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init 5
let us know, if that helps you boot.
greetz
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CPU Info AMD Athlon 64 3000+ clocked at [ 803.744 MHz ]
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Titel: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 18.05.2006, 20:25 Uhr
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My system is a PC Chips M811LU motherboard with AMD Duron 1.8GHz CPU with 512MB RAM. Sound is on-board. Forcing alsa to unload did not help me. I will update with more info when I get the chance.
jmon@jMonPC:~$ apt-cache policy alsa-utils
alsa-utils:
Installed: 1.0.10-1
Candidate: 1.0.11-2
Version table:
1.0.11-2 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
200 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
*** 1.0.10-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
jmon@jMonPC:~$ apt-cache policy arts
arts:
Installed: 1.5.1-1
Candidate: 1.5.2-1
Version table:
1.5.2-1 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
200 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
*** 1.5.1-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
soundcard = via82xx |
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Titel: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 19.05.2006, 04:03 Uhr
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This may be helpful too--
lshw is a hardware utility (best run as root) for displaying system info (soundcards & chips, etc) |
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Titel: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 28.05.2006, 03:03 Uhr
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| Well, since it went away after a dist-upgrade, it will probably come back when things get back in sync. Looking to see how to unlink kaffeine from being the default app. |
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Titel: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 28.05.2006, 03:08 Uhr
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Titel: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 28.05.2006, 22:02 Uhr
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I get the same problem when running the Easter RC4 Live CD. When initialising peripherals I get sound server fatal error, CPU overload, aborting. I cannot get passed this stage. Is there some boot option that will stop Kanotix looking for the sound card when booting so that I can get passed this? Greg
Laptop
VIA C3 Nehemiah 1GHZ, VIA CLE266 BIOS AMIBIOS, 512MB, VIA 8233-8255 sound. |
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Titel: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 28.05.2006, 22:24 Uhr
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Ich habe Kanotix-Easter-RC4 mit dist-upgrade gestern: seither bootet die Distro zwar, aber es kommt ein popup-Fenster, dass artsd abgestürzt sei und dieses Fenster kommt nach dem Wegklicken sofort wieder.
Die Lösung bei mir brachte ein downgrade von libasoun2 wie ober beschrieben.... |
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Titel: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 28.05.2006, 22:26 Uhr
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| sorry, von libasound2 wie oben beschrieben..... |
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Titel: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 28.05.2006, 22:47 Uhr
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das sind 2 verschiedene probleme, bitte nicht verwechseln
greetz
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CPU Info AMD Athlon 64 3000+ clocked at [ 803.744 MHz ]
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Titel: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 29.05.2006, 11:11 Uhr
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gregb49 hat folgendes geschrieben::
I get the same problem when running the Easter RC4 Live CD. .
BTW - This live CD version of RC4 works fine on a Geode computer SiS 17012 sound, SiS 741 chipset and Knoppix 4.0.2, live CD, runs fine on the laptop. Greg
Laptop VIA C3 Nehemiah 1GHZ, VIA CLE266 BIOS AMIBIOS, 512MB, VIA 8233-8255 sound |
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Titel: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 06.07.2006, 06:50 Uhr
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thanks a lot for the contributions to this thread.
with todays upgrade we have the following new packages, that will solve the problem:
Code:
alsa-base 1.0.11-3
alsa-utils 1.0.11-5
linux-sound-base 1.0.11-3
i hope, this helps
if there is still some quirks, please post here.
greetz
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Host/Kernel/OS "devilsbox" running[2.6.19-rc1-git5-kanotix-1KANOTIX-2006-01-RC4 ]
CPU Info AMD Athlon 64 3000+ clocked at [ 803.744 MHz ]
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 06.07.2006, 19:31 Uhr
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Maybe too much info  Never had a problem though
root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# cat /etc/kanotix-version
KANOTIX 2006 Easter
root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# uname -a
Linux KanotixBox 2.6.17-kanotix-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jun 19 23:40:22 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# kde-config -v
Qt: 3.3.6
KDE: 3.5.3
kde-config: 1.0
root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# apt-cache policy alsa-utils
alsa-utils:
Installed: 1.0.11-5
Candidate: 1.0.11-5
Version table:
*** 1.0.11-5 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
1.0.11-4 0
200 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Packages
root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# apt-cache policy arts
arts:
Installed: 1.5.3-2
Candidate: 1.5.3-2
Version table:
*** 1.5.3-2 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages
200 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# cat /proc/interrupts
193: 11448 IO-APIC-level CMI8738-MC6
root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# cat /proc/ioports
d000-d0ff : 0000:00:0e.0
d000-d0ff : CMI8738-MC6
root@KanotixBox:/home/piper# lshw
kanotixbox
description: Desktop Computer
product: KT400-8235
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
width: 32 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.2 dmi-2.2
configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: KT400-8235
vendor: soyocomputer
physical id: 0
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
physical id: 0
version: 6.00 PG (09/02/2003)
size: 128KB
capacity: 192KB
capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb agp ls120boot zipboot
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 6.8.1
slot: Socket A
size: 2GHz
width: 32 bits
clock: 133MHz
*-multimedia
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: CM8738
vendor: C-Media Electronics Inc
physical id: e
bus info: pci@00:0e.0
version: 10
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=C-Media PCI
resources: ioport:d000-d0ff irq:193 |
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 07.07.2006, 20:33 Uhr
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Here's a suggestion for the KDE developers. Dump the POS that is arts and use an already developed and functional sound server like jack! Nah.............that would make too much sense...... Maybe if they renamed it Kojack?  |
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 07.07.2006, 20:56 Uhr
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| ...like phonon? |
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Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 08.07.2006, 03:52 Uhr
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slh hat folgendes geschrieben::
...like phonon?
Well OK at least they recognize that arts is crap but as usual they have to do it their own way! |
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Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 08.07.2006, 10:41 Uhr
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mzilikazi hat folgendes geschrieben::
[...]as usual they have to do it their own way!
Actually no, phonon is just a tiny wrapper to give KDE packages a consistent abstraction of the sound layer in use, it can use xine, jackd, gstreamer etc. as backend - without requiring any application to have direct support for all of these. How would you implement this requirement otherwise? There is not one single audio backend in linux, gstreamer is still plagued by serious bugs, xine quite general purpose but not that good in the latency and legal department, jackd an absolute requirement for advanced users - phonon will provide a consistent API/ ABI for applications to use, independent of the real backend in use. |
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overloa
Verfasst am: 08.07.2006, 17:42 Uhr
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| so perhaps jackd should be installed by default in kanotix...is that a good idea? |
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overloa
Verfasst am: 08.07.2006, 22:23 Uhr
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| No, maybe when KDE 4 gets final. |
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Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overloa
Verfasst am: 09.07.2006, 05:19 Uhr
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KDE 4 will kick ass I hear...a good answer to Vista's AeroGlass  |
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Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 09.07.2006, 14:49 Uhr
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slh hat folgendes geschrieben::
...like phonon?
Ah yes it looks like phonon will eventually become a step in the right direction. Now if KDE could just lose the win32 style UI (and kill off a few of the many processes it requires to run) it might become usable. |
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Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: aRts-problem - Soundserver - cpu overload
Verfasst am: 12.07.2006, 17:46 Uhr
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How about getting the v1.0.11-3/5 alsa stuff patched into an rc5 so we can get on with beating up the rest of this puppy? (Maybe not. See UPDATE below.)
Some of the rest seems very prone to freezing up, but it's hard to prove what/where/when/why because it's taking me ALL DAY to boot the CD, or I have to intervene thus:
Booting Kanotix 2006 Easter RC4 Live with VIA 8233 sound on AC97 Controller / AMD Sempron 2400+ 1665MHz / Award BIOS 6.00PG leads during <KDE-initialising-peripherals> to a loop of "sound server fatal error."
At this point, pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace brings up a dialog box which says that KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify, and asks if one would like to disable aRts. Obviously, at this point, one would, but who knows which of the other instabilities have been induced by this intervention? Possibly all of them: frequent Konqueror crashes being the most disruptive.
UPDATE: Installing RC4 and updating those three alsa/linux-sound-base packages hasn't helped either of my VIA-sound-chip machines, so they're now running the latest Mepis (6.0-rc3), because the (K)ubuntu repositories are obviously not suffering the borkedness of bleeding-edge-Debian right now. Sorry Kano, but these machines have work to do.
Off-topic: klik is A Good Thing. It's not installed with 2006-RC4. Please let's have it back, if possible. Everything else (that I would propose for a base install) is right there ... when it boots. |
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