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Titel: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp
Verfasst am: 13.07.2006, 00:32 Uhr
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So I leave that one.
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Titel: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp
Verfasst am: 13.07.2006, 02:48 Uhr
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hubi hat folgendes geschrieben::
So I leave that one.
hubi
Good answer!
Glad to see that people are actually reading what apt is telling them instead of just pressing 'Y'
Now some people will disagree with me on this point but this is exactly why I do not use apt-get dist-upgrade. I always do apt-get upgrade, then if I feel the need for the latest packages (and they want to remove something I wish to keep) I'll try to figure out what to do but it's not usually so critical. Often times all required packages simply have not been uploaded to their respective repo's and all you need to do is wait and the situation will resolve itself. |
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Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp
Verfasst am: 13.07.2006, 03:36 Uhr
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Yeah, noticed that too..Gimp's too good to be kicked out |
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Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp
Verfasst am: 13.07.2006, 17:28 Uhr
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Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp
Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 00:12 Uhr
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Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp
Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 00:46 Uhr
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Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp
Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 01:01 Uhr
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aptitude is dealing with it fine as well. Just tried it on one machine. It holds back the new gimp-data and keeps the old gimp.
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Titel: RE: Re: dist-upgrade of today (13. July) wants to kick gimp
Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 01:14 Uhr
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DeepDayze The packages have already entered experimental. Before today's upgrade of the repositories, the experimental packages were even outdated. This is why I listed the incoming packages. You can use the command EES555 listed if you want.
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Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 09:35 Uhr
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hubi,
I've just tried a d-u and it still wants to remove gimp. Have you put gimp-data on 'hold'?
I currently have 3 package that are held back (not by me) : gkrellm, python-qt3 and checkinstall - do others have the same held packages?
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Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 09:55 Uhr
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drb,
I have done the dist-upgrade with aptitude and not apt-get. Aptitude holds the new gimp-data back, so no changes to gimp at all, and I did not have to set the *gimp*-packages on hold.
If you do not have aptitude:
#apt-get install aptitude
aptitude has more or less the same syntax as apt-get and uses the sources.list and preferences of /etc/apt/*
Then I did:
# aptitude update
# aptitude dist-upgrade
It asks you some questions, but the solutions are the right ones in this gimp-situation. The system is upgraded and gimp stays.
Greetings
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Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 11:15 Uhr
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Thanks hubi,
From a position of ignorance, why aptitude instead of apt-get? Are there any benefits (other than gimp not being removed!)?
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Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 11:49 Uhr
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drb,
technically I do not know the difference, just tried it out and it handled gimp differently, so it spared me holding the packages. Usually I use apt-get, but I'll stick with aptitude until the new gimp is in.
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Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 11:52 Uhr
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Hi!
Aptitude is said to deal with dependencies better than apt-get. And it keeps a log of its actions in /var/log/aptitude. Apt-get doesn't.
Just try it. Maybe use "aptitude dist-upgrade -d" first, downloads all needed packages but does not install them. |
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Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 16:14 Uhr
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Hi EES555
your instruction worked fine - thank you. Now Gimp is back and better than ever! |
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then God said:
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Verfasst am: 15.07.2006, 07:28 Uhr
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Superrakete hat folgendes geschrieben::
Aptitude is said to deal with dependencies better than apt-get. And it keeps a log of its actions in /var/log/aptitude. Apt-get doesn't
Aptitude remembers dependent packages which are "auto" installed when you install a package and will auto uninstall them if you remove that package (well, only those dependent packages that are not in-use anymore). So you end up with less crud on your system particularly if you have a tendency to trial and then purge packages often. I don't know of any other package manager that does this?
I've always used aptitude with kanotix instead of apt-get. The user interface is a bit obscure but, once you get used to it, it works well. |
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Verfasst am: 15.07.2006, 12:04 Uhr
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I treid the command EES555 suggested but I get the Release 'experimental' for 'gimp' was not found back. How do I do to get Gimp back? |
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Verfasst am: 15.07.2006, 12:08 Uhr
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You need to uncomment these two lines in your sources.list:
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# deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free
If you use synaptic, you check both of the boxes for those repos.
Remember to to comment both lines again after you install gimp. |
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Verfasst am: 15.07.2006, 17:13 Uhr
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So I uncomented
# deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free
In my /etc/apt/sources.list
apg-get udate
apt-get install gimp/experimental gimp-data/experimental libgimp2.0/experimental
I comentet the two lines in sources.list again
And now I have Gimp back again, Thanks
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Verfasst am: 16.07.2006, 02:42 Uhr
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just do a dist-upgrade again, now the latest gimp version is in the repository and all works fine!
greets, L.W. |
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Verfasst am: 16.07.2006, 09:39 Uhr
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It does seem that the updated gimp is now in the repository. Those who tried to fix the problem by using the experimental version installed a different version of gimp. The gimp in the experimental repo is the 2.3.10 development snapshot, rather than the released 2.2.12-1 that is in the sid repo. Just thought I would point that out.
Cheers,
-Mike |
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Verfasst am: 16.07.2006, 19:18 Uhr
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